THE THREE HUNDRED THIRD PLENARY SESSION

OF THE UNIVERSITY FACULTY SENATE

OF THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK 

March 23, 2004 

The meeting was called to order by UFS Chair O’Malley at 6:30 p.m. in Room 9204/5 at the Graduate School and University Center.   58  voting members were present: 

Baruch: Present – Hill and Pollard. Absent – Freedman, Giannikos, Majete, Myers, Onochie, and Wiley. BMCC: Present – Aymer, Friedman, Martin, Price, White, and Alternate Rani. Absent -- none. Bronx CC: Present – Fergenson and McManus. Absent - Lopez-Marron and Skinner. Brooklyn: Present– Antoniello, Bell, Jacobson, Shapiro, Tobey, and Alternate Bloomfield. Absent – Cunningham, Haggerty, London, Romer, and Sardy. CCNY: Present –  Benenson, Crain, Connorton, and Sank.  Absent – Broderick, Buffenstein, Sohmer. Vacancies – 3.  CSI: Present – Cooper, Foleno, Klibaner, Levine, and Petratos. Absent–Yousef.  CUNY Law School: Present – McArdle. Absent – Andrews.  Vacancy – 1. Graduate School: Present – Baumrin. Absent – Katz-Rothman, Khuri, Kulkarni, Nair and Ofuatey-Kodjoe.  Hostos CC: Present – August, Roe, and Singh. Absent - none. Vacancies - 1.  Hunter: Present – Doyle, Finder, Matthews, Wimberly, and Alternate Rodriguez. Absent – Friedman, Kaye, Krishnamachari, and Sherrill. Vacancies – 2.  John Jay: Present – Kaplowitz and Napoli. Absent – Holder, Kadir, Mandery, and Wylie-Marques. Kingsborough CC: Present – Barnhart, Farrell, Galvin, O’Malley, and Alternates Fridman and Lin. Absent– Goodkin. LaGuardia CC: Present – Beaky, Davidson, Gallagher, and Mettler. Absent - Lerman. Vacant -- 1.  Lehman: Present –Philipp and Wilder. Absent – Jervis, Heching, Hosay, and Mineka. Medgar Evers: Present – Alternate Hickerson. Absent -- Barker, Harris-Hastick Donohue and Patwary. NYCCT: Present –Dreyer, Hounion, and Richardson. Absent -- Cermele, Horelick, and Walter.  Queens: Present – Erickson. Absent – Bird, Brody, Habib, Moore, Savage, and Sukhu. Vacancies – 3.  Queensborough CC: Present –Dahbany-Miraglia, Pecorino, and Alternate Tully. Absent – Barbanel, Weiss.  Vacancies – 1.  York: Present – Lewis, Moss, and Alternate Cooley.  Absent – Berg, Frank. 

Attending as guests were Mitchell Langbert (Brooklyn), Karen Gourgey (Baruch), and Syd Lefkoe (Queens).  

Governance Leaders present: Baumrin (GSUC), Cooper (CSI), Dreyer (NYCCT),  Fridman (KCC), Friedman (Kingsborough), Kaplowitz (John Jay), Levine (CSI), Mettler (LaGuardia), and Tobey (Brooklyn).  Parliamentarian Andrea McArdle, Executive Director Phipps, Administrative Assistant Pasela, and Secretary Blanchard were present.  

 I.    Approval of the Agenda - The agenda was adopted as proposed.

 II.   Approval of the Minutes of February 24, 2004 - The minutes were adopted as proposed.

 III.  Reports : (Recorded in Reports & Deliberations)

             A.     Chair

B.   The Chancellor

C.  Vice Chancellor Russ Hotzler on the Community College Investment Initiative

D.   Representatives to Board Committees 

IV.   New Business 

            A. UFS Recommendations on the 2004-2008 Master Plan - Since time was short, the Chair solicited comments by email and promised that the recommendations would be redrafted and distributed later. 

Professor Crain made the motion, which was seconded and passed unanimously, that the UFS express to Professor Ramona Hernandez the following sentiment:  “That we wish to express special gratitude and appreciation to our colleague, Professor Ramona Hernandez of the City College, for thinking only of the best interests of children and maintaining the courage of her convictions in the recent New York City dispute over grade retention.”  Professor Hernandez had been removed the previous week from New York City's Panel for Educational Policy because she opposed Mayor Michael Bloomberg's plan to impose strict promotion rules for third-graders.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:15 P.M.

Respectfully submitted,

William Phipps

Executive Director

THE THREE HUNDRED AND THIRD PLENARY SESSION

OF THE UNIVERSITY FACULTY SENATE

OF THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK 

March 23, 2004

III.  Reports: 

A.  Chancellor: Thank you for the work that all of you are doing because it really is going to make a difference. I had imagined, as everybody had, that we would have a very fast budget this year because the Republican convention is going to be in New York City, the Legislature is up for reelection, and you would imagine that people would be distracted pretty early into the spring and want to get out of Albany and do their other work. I don’t believe that that is going to happen. In recent conversations people have indicated to me that they believe that there will be some agreement, a conceptual agreement, that may occur around the beginning of May. And once that conceptual agreement is reached, mark-ups of bills will have to be done and that could take at least three to four weeks. So I think we’re back to business as usual here. Unless something really dramatic happens it looks as if the budget is going to be much further than I think most of us had anticipated. And of course complicating this, and you see this in the press, we don’t have full disclosure yet from the Zarb commission, the campaign for fiscal equity decision that courts mandated that the State Legislature come forward with a plan; that has not surfaced yet and that really is becoming much more of a complicating factor and dragging the process towards its completion. In any case, our efforts have largely been, at least on the State side, for the senior colleges to get restoration of about $18 to $20 million in operating aid. That is going to be a problem unless we get it fixed, not a problem that you would necessarily see on your campuses but problems that we would have just putting together the foundations of a strong and secure budget. I believe that that will be turned about in our favor. I also believe that the special programs, SEEK, College Discovery, programs like that I think will again see the light of day, which is very good news. The hard thing in our particular budget again is the TAP program. To get the full restoration of the TAP program is close to about $300 million. That is a very, very big number. The thing that I’ve always worried about, and I’ve shared this with you now for two years in a row, because we’ve seen this happen over and over again, that when TAP is restored people feel we’ve taken care of public education, let’s go on to something else, when all of us know that, while it’s important to get TAP restored because we will have some students who are vulnerable, there are areas in the budget that unless they are addressed will have particular problems for us and we need to be very mindful of it.

 The other difficulty in this budget process is on the community college side on the capital side. I don’t think it’s necessarily problematic on base aid to community colleges; the Governor reduced base aid by about $150 per FTE student, but that I think probably will also be corrected, if not fully then fairly completely. It is on the community colleges’ capital program that I continue to be concerned. We have requested, and I have gotten very favorable signals from the Governor himself, from the leadership in both the Senate and the Assembly that the $108 million that we are asking for in addition to what the Governor has proposed is a legitimate request, and certainly by the nature of what has happened in the past in financing the capital programs in the community colleges is more than justified. More than justified because there has not been right now for about six and a half years any real money into the community colleges, and we believe that over the next five years we’re going to need between $400 and $500 million to do the kinds of things that I think are really essential to do across our six community colleges that have really been very poorly neglected. So the problem that we have is that the City of New York, and you heard me talk about this over and over again, has not given their side to the covenant that is struck, that if we provide a dollar you have to match it with a dollar, and the City has never done that to any extent, starting with the Giuliani administration and spilling over to where we are today. And they say to me very directly, “We’re prepared to do this but if we do it we don’t think the City is going to put up their share, and if the City is not going to put up their share we’re going to pause and make sure that we put the money to where we think it’s actually going to be used as opposed to appropriating it and not being used.” And that puts us in a very difficult conversation. I’ve had obviously very long and many private conversations with the Executive in the City, with, again, the highest levels in the City over and over again, and people believe that there is a legitimacy to our need. Nobody is concerned about that but there is this play that is going on, and we’ve been seeing it for a while, between the City and the State over capital programs. Until we work our way out of this we’re put in this vice between competing interests here that leave us falling short. Again, I had a late conversation today with a top Deputy Mayor who’s very much involved in this, and with the Budget Director, and I’m hopeful that we’re going to work our way through this. But on the State side with respect to community colleges, that’s what I’m really worried about. On the City side, let me just briefly say that I think after a lot of very hard work, quiet work, especially with the Executive branch, I think the $5.4 million will be OK. That was this PEG reduction that I’ve shared with you for some time now, and although I don’t have it in writing I’m fairly confident that that will work out. Here we had really a joining of hands between the Executive that we worked on (this is going on now for several months) and the City Council, so I’m fairly confident that we will prevail. We still have issues on the Vallone Scholarship safety net program, operational support for the PEG reduction and the Hunter College Campus Schools, which continue to have a deficit of about $125,000 which is crazy.  It just doesn’t make any sense at all, but we’re working our way through that. So that’s where we are. We’ll be fine. I’ve said that we’re going to have stability and we will have stability next year, but these little pockets of money, a little here a little there, cause particular campuses a problem. I’m even convinced that we may get some additional faculty positions on the State side because fortunately all of us this year have been saying the same sort of thing and the message is getting across. So we will see. That’s all I could tell you at this particular point. The message is a later budget than I thought and we still are somewhat concerned about the capital side for the community colleges.

  Let me mention a few other things and then I’ll take some questions and then I’m going to leave you because Russ Hotzler is going to talk about the community college investment program. We are in various stages of searches for new Presidents. The John Jay Search Committee has come forward with four very interesting people. There are campus visits this week and next week. I will make a recommendation for a new President for John Jay College at the May Board meeting and I expect that we will have a President that will start over the summer at John Jay and I think it will be a good President as well. The candidates that we have look very promising. We are in the later stages of a search for a President for Kingsborough Community College. I have not met those candidates but I will be meeting them and I expect that we will advance a President for Kingsborough as well as early as the May Board meeting. That one may spill over until June but I’m not sure about that. We’ll see how fast we can get that done. I met with the faculty leadership, student leadership, and alumni at New York City College of Technology and indicated to those three groups that it’s my intention to take a short route instead of a full-blown search for a new President. I think that we have an ideal candidate that has shown a real capacity to do really very good work and I await his visit to the campus, I await reports, and we’ll discuss this with various leadership groups on the New York City College of Technology campus. And it’s not a secret, I’ve made this very public, we do have provisions. When I came in and we rewrote the Presidential Guidelines, because we changed the governance structure about the relationship of Presidents to the Chancellor, we put a provision in those guidelines that if there is a particular outstanding candidate the Chancellor can go to the Board and say this particular individual really has all the tickets, so let’s do it. So Russ Hotzler is in play right now, so when you see him he’s going to be looked at (applause). I’m not exactly sure if that applauded me, but I will await and I’m going to do this according to Hoyle and we’ll get this done.

  We also are going to be doing a rapid search for another very senior officer of the University, in fact the first officer of the University, Louise Mirrer, who’s seated in the front, who after seven years as Vice Chancellor of Academic Affairs, and then Executive Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs, is assuming the position as President and Chief Executive Officer of the New York Historical Society. Let me just say that this may be Louise’s last visit to a plenary; I don’t know, she may find it so enjoyable that she may want to come back. Let me say just a couple of words about Louise. When I came in 1999 I was delighted to find Louise Mirrer in her role. I was privileged to chair the Search Committee when I was President at Baruch that chose Louise, so obviously I had great admiration for her having never met her but chaired the Search Committee and made that recommendation that she be the next Vice Chancellor. In the last five years there has been a tremendous amount of work that I would hope that many of you would acknowledge about the academic renewal of this University, not only the cornerstone of this, which is faculty renewal. Remember in 1999 we had about 5,400 full-time faculty, and we now have something over 6,000 and growing, and we’re going to continue to grow the faculty that we’ve attracted, and extraordinary faculty, to complement the extraordinary faculty that we have right now. For me that has always been the flagship component of what it is that we’re trying to do to build a great faculty at this University and to really shape the University to attract more students that in the past were not as interested in coming to CUNY, and we are getting extraordinary men and women who are choosing to come to this University now that were not at all persuaded that this was the right place for them to study. We’ve done an awful lot of policy changes at this University. Some of these policy changes have been controversial, but I have been doggedly about trying to do this because I’ve always believed that they were the right things to do. So if I listed all of the changes that have occurred, the new schools that we’ve established, the new School of Journalism that we will establish in May, the change in standards, the assessment, the performance management system, it just goes on and on, the driver of all of this was Louise Mirrer; she was the one center stage moving this, so I think we owe a debt of great gratitude to Louise for her sensitivity to moderate and listen and change a view based upon information that is given; the hard work that so many of you have acknowledged to me on a personal level about how hard and honest Louise has been over these seven years in her capacity as Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs, and just a good colleague, a very fine person that I think we as a community benefited from greatly. So, Louise, we’re going to miss you.

  We have a Search Committee that has been established for an Academic Vice Chancellor or Executive Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs. We have a protocol, and that protocol mandates a certain number of Presidents, a Trustee that is a non-voting member. Ricardo Fernandez of Lehman College will chair the committee. He will be joined by Marlene Springer and Gail Mellow. You’re fortunate to have Susan O’Malley on the committee. I think Susan you did say yes, right? Professor Stuart Ewen at Hunter, who’s a terrific fellow; Nilda Soto Ruiz, who will not vote; she called me today and she said, “Am I allowed to talk on the committee?” And I said, “Of course you’re allowed to talk.” So she will be talking but not voting. And two members of my administration, Allan Dobrin, who’s a Senior Vice Chancellor and works very closely with the Academic Vice Chancellor, and John Mogulescu, who is the largest grant and contract receiver in the University by several orders of magnitude, and Agnes Abraham representing the students. It’s my intention to have a new Executive Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs by September, so this is on a fast track and we’re moving as quickly as we can. In the interim I’m going to be very much involved in academic affairs, as I have been over the past five years, but I’ve asked Russ Hotzler to coordinate the activity of academic affairs after Louise leaves, and hopefully he will not have to do that more than two or three months because he has another assignment that awaits him, but he’s agreed to do that. And there will be another search or two and I’m not prepared to talk about that tonight, but to me the change in leadership is about trying to attract the best people that we possibly can, and with the reputation of the University having changed I think for the better over the past couple of years, we are getting extraordinary people now saying “I’d like to be considered for some of these positions,” and I think that’s a good sign for us. It’s certainly showing in the faculty that we are recruiting.

  I will just say one very quick story because Russ is going to talk about this later. It was at John Jay College about a month ago where I was meeting with the Faculty Governance Leaders, and I always get a corned beef sandwich when I go, which is what I look forward to. A Professor, Chair of the English Department at Queensborough, came over to me, Sheena Gillespie, came over to me and said that they have just completed hiring seven members of the English Department for Queensborough Community College, the largest infusion of full-time faculty in the English Department in the history of her tenure at Queensborough, and I think that’s going to be replicated at a number of institutions. It’s a wonderful time for this University to attract as many people to work with you and to do the good work that all of you continue to do. Those kinds of stories I think we’ll be able to chat with you about.

  Let me just finish with the tenure clock issue, which I’m sure is of interest. I know that there are disparate views on the faculty, and that’s good, that’s what universities are about. People are free to express their views and it’s important that those views be heard. We did have a town meeting. I’m going to report to the Board on that town meeting but more important than all the communications, and they have been quite substantial, is that we’re going to go through a process. I have not even approached anybody yet and I’m going to be very straight with all of you, and I always am. I have not asked anybody on the Legislature yet, either on the Assembly or the Senate, to sponsor a bill because I’m not exactly sure what that bill should look like, and I think we need to continue to think about this. We have a draft of a bill that Rick Schaffer did, but as I would say, everything is a first draft and it needs constant looking at carefully. I think it’s the right thing for us to do. The thing that I received from listening closely to those people who spoke very favorably about a change are the young faculty at a number of our campuses that said something that really gave me a great sense of comfort and encouragement. They said several times, and this was across a number of campuses, “I don’t want to write in a B journal, I want to write in the best journals that I can. I have ideas, I have a dissertation that I think can be structured in a way that can enable me to get my work into the best possible places.” For those of us who have written for top journals, you know how long that process can take; you’ve heard the stories over and over again. I want to help support faculty who shoot high. For me it’s about fairness. It’s not about changing the guidelines in terms of making it more stringent to get tenure, it is to give people an opportunity in a reasonable amount of time, not in an accelerated amount of time, to do the good work that they are capable of. We have to make judgments in such a short period of time that oftentimes reviewers have said, “I won’t review something like this; how can you possibly make a judgment so quickly.” And I understand community colleges have different views in large part from some of the senior colleges and we need to take some of these things into consideration, and this process is going to move forward and we’ll see where we wind up. I’m going to need to stop now because I know that you want to see Russ and I have to get on to something, so I have time for just a few questions and I’ll get out of here.

     Professor Levine (Engineering Science and Physics, College of Staten Island) – As everyone in the room knows, I support extending the maximum time to tenure, so I’m the right person to ask this. I would ask, since the UFS has arranged a Spring Conference for exactly one month from today discussing the time to tenure issue, that you would hold off, fully participate in that conference and hold off on any final implementation or proposal until after that conference, and everyone is allowed to speak. / Chancellor – And I think we have time. Again, I’m not rushing to do this. I don’t know if I can physically be there. / Professor Levine – Other people from your staff. / Chair – We asked you a long time ago and you said yes but I don’t know what your calendar looks like.

    Professor Lea Friedman (English, Kingsborough Community College) – I want to begin by acknowledging your concern for world-class faculty and faculty renewal and mentioning that something quite wonderful and important, a number of things, has come up at Kingsborough. One involves your own visit to our campus and visit of the Search Committee to the campus, at which time you agreed that it would be a wonderful thing for Kingsborough to have a person leading it with a series of academic credentials, and certainly you’ve expressed that interest here, the concern with world-class and serious academic credentials. And the second thing that you had mentioned that the Search Committee also mentioned was a promise that faculty would have a voice in this process. It’s come to our attention, and this is another quite extraordinary and wonderful news to the faculty, that there is a candidate with exactly this very background, someone with extraordinary world-class credentials, with extraordinary work, very substantial fund-raising background and credentials as well as administrative background, and a number of faculty have put together a letter for you and for others urging that this individual be interviewed. The concern with the faculty that we do have is that in the process earlier that brought us McClenney seems to have excluded the possibility of including this individual. I did write a letter to the Search Committee, and I’ll skip parts of it but I’ll share with you a part of it. “The resume is impressive. The books Weisberg has published with Yale, Columbia, NYU, and Little Brown helped create the field of Law and Literature. One of his books provided the evidential base for trials against French Railroads for conspiring the murder of 75,000 French Jews. The name of that book is Vichy and the Law. A gifted fundraiser, Dr. Weisberg raised $8 million in the last five years for Cardoza Law School and its institutes. He’s the Florscheimer Professor of Institutional Law. As a member of Kingsborough faculty, I find his administrative background especially interesting. Dr. Weisberg directs three important institutes, two of them with multi-million dollar budgets, and has brought and managed major trials of national consequence.” / Chancellor – Can I just say that I’m very uncomfortable about mentioning names of people who are maybe being considered. I just don’t think it’s really appropriate in an open forum. We try to maintain not only the dignity but the confidentiality of the process. Talking about this in an open forum I just don’t think is appropriate. I don’t know who the individual is you’re referring to but I just don’t feel comfortable even responding, given how we try to conduct these searches.

    Professor Crain (Psychology, City College) – I want to express some concerns about the flagship environment. At City College the University has designated Engineering, Architecture, Sciences flagship programs and departments and the City College is also now asking departments to apply within the college for premier status. I, and a lot of others, even in the so called upper eschelon, did not like the way this is dividing us into superior and inferior departments and haves and have nots and it’s going to hurt morale and collegiality. The whole process is going to be destructive to the atmosphere of the college. / Chair – So what are you going to ask the Chancellor? / Professor Crain – I’m going to ask him to respond to this. And also we understand at City College that these priorities have to do with funding and, if so, it’s a template for consolidation and downsizing of the University and it’s very worrisome. As you have a finite budget, certain programs are going to get financed, in some there will be retirees, they’ll just dwindle without the funding and that’s a very serious matter both in terms of the morale and of the implication. / Chancellor – I have talked about the whole notion of the flagship environment from the first day I walked in here and I’ve gone over this over and over again. I really just can’t take the time given my own constraints and the other questions that have to be answered. Let me just say that there is no expectation, there is no result of this that would reduce the size of the University or starve one program as opposed to another. These are investments incremental to what it is that we have across the University. There is no flagship initiative that is unique to one particular organization within the University, one particular campus. These are collaboratives that when we invest in a flagship effort it is cross-campus, building some great strength. So if anything what the result of this is really to lift all of the University, it’s not to give one favorite group more money than anybody else. It’s incremental. / Professor Crain – I will have to pursue it later then.

    Professor Bell (Educational Services, Brooklyn College) – I have two questions. The first is in the past day it’s come to our attention that there is an RFP that used to subsume freshmen summer programs and Writing Across the Curriculum and other efforts, and it sort of seems to restructure the way the funding will come and how the colleges are supposed to respond to these initiatives; and it has some acronym that I don’t remember, CUNY Undergraduate something. We’d sort of like to hear what it is and why we’re doing it please. / Chancellor – Martha, can I answer? I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. / Professor Bell – But Vice Chancellor Mirrer is nodding her head. She knows what I’m talking about. / Chancellor – Could Russ respond to it and then he could tell me what this is. / Professor Bell – I hope so. The other one is on TAP, which you do know about. When I was in Albany on Tuesday, having met with many people in the past couple of weeks that I’ve been up there, I’m getting the sense that they’re very negative about restoring TAP as you said, that they see it’s such a challenge because they’ve done it with smoke and  mirrors the past couple of years and they’re sort of hitting the wall. And when I was in Senator LaValle’s office they were talking about alternates in restructuring and all sorts of other things.  Maybe we could be at the forefront to protect our neediest students. / Chancellor – I have some ideas on that but our public position, our lobbying position, has been full-restoration. The problem is that it’s a very big-ticket item and then it just subsumes everything else, and that really is the challenge that we face, that they may just do that and then just say, “We’ve taken care of it.” The other thing with TAP is we have other partners; we’re not there alone. The biggest recipients of TAP are the private institutions, and without TAP a good percentage of them would not be viable. So for them it’s a lifeline for survival. I think at the end TAP is going to be much more what it was before, but there is going to be at some point because of the explosive nature of growth in TAP that something is going to have to be done. It’s just going to be a program that may not be affordable in its present structure in the long run. / Professor Bell – That’s what I saw in this figure and I wondered if we could get out ahead of it and help restructure it for us. / Chancellor – We do have some ideas but at another time.

      Professor Benenson (Mechanical Engineering, City College) – I have a comment and a question. The comment is I would like to wish Louise every success in her new position at the New York Historical Society. My question I think is unrelated to my comment. I have to tell you that there is an air of unreality that for me at least pervades these meetings. What happens on the ground at City College, which is the only place I know, is very different from what I hear here. I use the tenure issue as an example. At City College it’s well known that the only requirement for tenure are publishing in refereed journals and grants. Service to the department is dissuaded for new faculty, so is excellence in teaching or a great deal of attention to teaching. Many of our junior faculty who come to City College believing that it’s an institution where teaching is important, where the students are important, find themselves either not at home there or dissuaded from continuing by the requirements that they make. What I wonder is whether or not you’re aware of this problem. Have you taken steps to address it? Junior faculty is routinely told “Do not do anything that interferes with publications and grants.” / Chancellor – Am I aware of it? I’ve lived through it when I was President of Baruch and I must say that I was very disheartened by the early tenure clock because that was a very real factor that I could really grasp. Young faculty in no uncertain terms at Baruch College, and it was attested to last week at this town meeting, are told, are advised by their Chairs and the peers in the department, “Forget about working with students, just go in and do a decent job teaching. Unless you build up your publication record quickly you’re out of here.” And I think that’s wrong. I think that’s dead wrong. It is sending just the wrong message. If anything, with so many of our students they need a faculty member to work with them, to guide them, to give them encouragement, to spend time with them, and if they are being dissuaded from doing that I think it’s wrong. But that’s the message that they’re getting and at the end at many of our campuses if you have a good publication record and you just do an adequate at best job by appearing in class and show up you have a very good shot of getting tenure. / Professor Benenson – Right, but the question I have is what evidence is there that changing the tenure clock will do anything except lengthen the period in which junior faculty don’t teach. If the requirements aren’t changed as well then the problem is simply magnified. So it seems to me that the issue of changing the number of years is the wrong issue. The issue is really the requirements for tenure. / Chancellor – Let me just respond very quickly, and I think these are the kinds of things that we have to talk about as a community here. For me if somebody has two additional years to get their publication record in shape, then they have more time to do other things around the college that they are persuaded from doing right now. That to me is an obvious result. / Professor Benenson – Equally obvious is the possibility that the P&B and the review committee could say, “You had more time, you should have done more stuff.” / Chancellor – I think that’s wrong. / Professor Benenson – Well, the evidence suggests that’s what will happen, unless there is clear direction. / Chancellor – We have to get clear direction. I believe, and I don’t know this for a fact because I’m not at ground level seeing what actually goes on at the P&B, but if you believe that there is a legitimate process that exists right now at our campuses in evaluating people then I think that legitimate process should just be extended to give people a little more time without saying that if you’re a humanist, if you’re in the philosophy department of one of our four year institutions and you’re not going to get tenure unless you write a book, for example, with a reputable publisher, I don’t think one should say that given the tenure clock is extended by two years that you ought to have two books or a book and five articles. Whatever it is now should be the case, but give people a little more opportunity to do it in a better way than perhaps they were forced to do it, and give them a little more time so that they can have a better balance in how they deploy their talents on their campus. And right now I think you’re right. / Professor Benenson – It might give them more time to get discouraged.

     Professor Pollard (Baruch College) – You talked about you’re going to unveil a new School of Journalism in May. Where would it be located? / Chancellor - It’s going to be a University-wide school. It’s not going to be on any particular campus. We will find an appropriate physical location to seat it. We will look to hire a Dean and the Dean will be given an opportunity to bring in faculty in addition to using faculty that we have here at the University. / Professor Pollard – So you’re going to use the faculty that you have now. / Chancellor – Actually the process is very much a faculty driven process. / Chair – And UFS has been quite involved in it. / Professor Pollard – Thank you.

     Professor Kaplowitz (English, The John Jay College of Criminal Justice) – It’s very quick and it will not reveal anything confidential. I am very pleased to have been on the Search Committee at John Jay; it’s a wonderful committee; Trustee Mastro worked wonderfully; everyone on it was terrific. In the course of the meetings what became clear is that this artificial tiering of the colleges may not be in the best interest of the University, and I’d like to ask that we rethink it. Colleges that are somehow second tier strike candidates as strange, especially since that’s not their perception necessarily of the college. / Chancellor – Tiering is probably not the best word. I think we need to have campuses that have much higher admission standards and I would love to see all of them moving towards that direction. / Professor Kaplowitz – Maybe we can rethink a way of designing it. / Chancellor – I think hopefully all the time as I will be talking with each of the candidates that I would like to see a new President come and push an institution much more in that direction. / Professor Kaplowitz – And that’s the sole criterion for what tier the college is in? / Chancellor – No, it’s not the only thing but it’s certainly a driver. The admission standards at Baruch, Brooklyn, City, Hunter, and Queens are much different than the admission standards of those institutions that are not in that group. I would like to see even that group of five move further. I’d like to see other campuses move in that direction as well, as long as it doesn’t really upset the basic fabric of the University, and that to me is important. / Professor Kaplowitz – Thank you for taking the time.

     Chair – Thank you very much, Chancellor Goldstein. It’s my pleasure to introduce Russ Hotzler. What to say about Russ Hotzler? He’s worn every hat in the University. He is now Vice Chancellor for Academic Planning. I like to call him the Vice Chancellor for articulation, but anyway, he’s going to be the Interim Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs, and he’s already been presented as the President of New York City College of Technology, although faculty and the Board must vote on this. So he does everything and he does it well.

      Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Thank you very much, Susan. You left out the most important thing: I’m still a member of the faculty in this University. / Chair – Yes. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Thank you for your welcome today, it’s a pleasure to be here, and I’ll try to be as quick as I can. I know there are some questions and hopefully I’ll be able to answer them. One of the handouts today was an overview of what has been referred to as the community college investment program, and I will speak to it for a moment just to bring everyone up to speed on this a bit. Some of this may not be sitting well with some of the senior college people, but nevertheless we hope to have an investment program for the senior colleges at some point. As you all know, unfortunately we were in a position that forced us to raise tuition this past fall, and in doing that we had attempted with regard to the community colleges, and the Chancellor fought at length, to keep the tuition low but felt it was necessary to raise tuition for the community colleges. One indicator, for example, is that the amount of the instruction by full-time faculty at the community colleges had dropped down to the low 40% range, and that’s just not conducive to a good educational environment. So there is a real need here to infuse resources back into these institutions and, again, we were fortunate that there were people at the City Government and City Council that recognized that need and allowed the University to go ahead and raise the tuition. However, that rise in tuition, $300 at the community colleges, was essentially placed into one fund and it was anticipated to generate somewhere between $25 and $26 million, which we transposed into hiring 450 additional faculty and staff. There is a breakdown here on the sheet that you can look at. It’s been amended a bit; colleges have requested to make some switches here and there and we have allowed them to do that based on their particular needs. But what this shows you is that there were essentially 240 faculty lines given out to the community colleges and given out in a manner that would give each of them an opportunity to reach a point somewhere between roughly 55-56% of the instruction would be full-time, in some cases a bit higher. Another 60 lines defined here as cluster, although we’re really not looking at them in the same context as we look at cluster lines at the senior colleges, these were high priority lines if you will, the difference being that those lines were going to be funded at an average salary of $70,000 whereas the other faculty lines were funded at an average salary of $50,000. And that again was to give the colleges some flexibility to be competitive in areas such as nursing, computer science, subjects where perhaps the market required us to go a bit higher; as some of you know, to attract nursing candidates these days one has to be competitive and the starting salaries are significantly higher. But the attempt was also present to address other needs. The libraries, for example, had undergone significant erosion over the years in terms of staff and money for acquisitions. This attempted to infuse not only additional professional lines into the library but, as you can see, a significant amount of money that was dedicated to new acquisitions. This has moved forward and I can report to you now that of the 240 lines, and we can stick with those for a moment, approximately 220 of them are filled at the moment, and they are filled in the following way: Only about 60 appointments have been made on a permanent basis to this point in time. The other lines are filled on a substitute basis and we certainly hope that by next fall the target would be to have all of these lines filled, if not permanently then certainly all of them filled with substitutes as well, so that we can really bring the benefit of this plan to our students. This has been really long awaited. There is another category here I should mention in terms of academic support, and that breaks out another 40 lines, and the colleges were given the opportunity to tell us in effect how they wanted those lines; academic advisors, whatever the particular needs were on the campuses. It’s of significance perhaps to note that of 150 lines that one could look at as being non-teaching approximately 45 of them are going to be academic advisors, transfer counselors, or student service positions that will basically assist the students in their academic programs and determining the best course for them, and that has been an area at the community colleges that has been lacking significantly in the past number of years and this will help us tremendously also with respect to transfers. You may not be aware we’ve been watching these transfer numbers go up. I know some of you are aware that you’re finding more and more transfer students on the campuses. We actually had 30,000 transfer students across the University. That was broken out about roughly 50/50 in terms of internal transfers primarily from the community colleges to the senior colleges, the other half being external transfers coming in. When you look at that number in the context of taking in somewhere between 45 and 50,000 regular freshmen one sees that the transfer population is really becoming extremely significant.  And the numbers are not dropping, we expect them to continue to rise, so it’s really essential that we find ourselves looking to see how we can best deal with that population. Let me just say in that regard one of the advantages that will come out of this investment program is that, since all the lines were not filled from day one, there is obviously some money here that was not encumbered early on. All of that money is going back to the community colleges in the form of additional resources for library acquisitions. We are in fact buying about a million dollars’ worth of electronic resources for the libraries. Some of that will spill over and some of those new electronic journals will also be available now to the senior colleges as well, so there is a crossover here in that regard. Some of the other additional funds will also be used to help with some of the systems we have. In particular I know LaGuardia Community College and Brooklyn college have recently brought up a system called Degree Works, which is really a phenomenal system that empowers the students to understand what courses they’ve taken, what remains to be taken, they can do this as a what if. The system actually draws upon some of the inventory within the University with respect to the TIPPS system, which has equivalencies in it but is somewhat limited because it doesn’t interact with many of the other programs. So the Degree Works software will actually allow that process to go forward. As part of this we are going to buy the licenses for all the community colleges and also put in place the expertise that can bring this program online. Again, some of that will then benefit the senior colleges because once they acquire the software, the University Computer Center will have the expertise to move them online much faster. So we’re quite hopeful about this.

  Let me say that one of my jobs with respect to this investment plan has been to oversee the way in which the colleges have proceeded to hire new faculty, and I say that respectfully because the Chancellor, I believe in an earlier visit here, made it clear that, given his extent of commitment to the City Council and to others as to how this resource was going to be used, ensured everyone that in fact we would maximize the benefit to our students by hiring the best qualified people we could and also ensuring the degree of diversity in these new hires. In that regard the colleges have been sending in copies of resumes as the pools of candidates, and I have to tell you we have been very fortunate. We’ve been hiring some very spectacular people from all across the country, and I don’t think the community colleges have seen pools of candidates like this in a long time, and certainly we haven’t hired like this in at least thirty years, maybe a little longer at this point.  So actually, while there has been an effort to assist the colleges in this process, I have to say, and those of you who have been involved in this – I had the pleasure of discussing this with the Community College Caucus a few weeks ago; Professor Farrell invited me and we went through some of this, so I know some of you heard it – are familiar with it, but we’re very pleased at this point this is moving forward in a very positive way. There are a few areas where I think it will be difficult. There are some 50 lines in English. There are about 45 lines being searched in Mathematics. Some of those pools are difficult to fill, especially in the Mathematics area there has been some difficulty, but I can report that everyone is to task on this. I’ll stop here on that and answer any questions anyone might have.

  Professor Bell asked the question before and some of you may be aware that the University Office of Academic Affairs has essentially over time developed a number of academic support initiatives. Traditionally RFPs are issued to the campuses to ask for money to support Writing Across the Curriculum, to support other ventures, freshman year initiatives, summer program usage, and basically what was happening was that there were at least four, sometimes five of these RFPs going out, and discrete pots of money were set up in order to allocate for a particular program. In some respects this wasn’t working as well, and I can just tell you as a President getting four or five letters indicating an allocation for this, that, and the other, and not necessarily having the flexibility on the campus to use the money in a way that was perhaps most needed. There was an effort here to see how we could simplify this process, so we have simplified it in a manner by simply issuing one RFP, and I would say that that RFP includes all of the areas that were issued separately before. So nothing has been eliminated: the Writing Across the Curriculum, the freshman year initiative, the use of program for the summer, nothing has been struck off the list. Also we have put this forth to the colleges in a way saying, “It’s not a competition for the money; we guarantee you upfront you will get the same amount of money that you got the year before.” And we didn’t want people to start, as they had been, submitting proposals where they felt they were in competition for this money. By combining it, it has essentially allowed the campuses the flexibility to use these funds where they were most needed, and what I mean by that is that some people for example were getting and asking for significant money in the summer session, some of that money they didn’t need in the summer; they now have the flexibility of infusing that across the semesters. Some people would like to put more money into Writing Across the Curriculum, perhaps less money into one of the others. We’ve also broadened it, something that I think is very important; faculty development can be included in this process. So essentially this was an effort not to restructure in terms of the intent of providing additional support for the students but simply giving the colleges individually the flexibility to direct that support in a way that was most in line with their particular needs.

     Professor Bell (Educational Services, Brooklyn College) – May I ask? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Please. / Professor Bell – It seems to me that there was a list of initiatives, like the WAC in the freshman year. It seems to me there were more than were funded. It was almost as though the list started to contain unfunded mandates and themes that weren’t present last time around.  It seemed to me the programs were towards the theme or structure. Am I reading it incorrectly, that there were some goals underlying this other than financial? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Let me be specific to your question. The list of things that the colleges could do with the money was extended not with the intention of forcing any particular direction but certainly to indicate that we were going to allow the money to be used for things that were perhaps not on the agenda before. For example (tape switched) … a small amount or whatever, and to actually invest some of that in a program for ESL students or, again, faculty development. So it was not meant in any way to start a new agenda if you will. It was really intended to free up and provide flexibility. / Professor Bell – But not any additional funds for…/ Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Well, there may be. You have to understand all of these RFPs, and some of you may know, it adds up to in excess of $50 million. There is a significant amount of money given out and it was given out in a way which was a little bit too structured. And again, the intent here was not to eliminate any of the initiatives but simply provide the colleges with the flexibility. / Professor Bell – Can you share that with us the Senate? Maybe Susan and The Executive Committee can take a look at it and see how that’s going. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Absolutely. / Professor Bell – Thank you. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Just goals and targets, you did mention that. It was mentioned in the RFP that obviously as a college defines its initiatives it should be looking foremost at what its goals and targets are and could then direct the money to ensure that they were able to reach that higher retention etc.

      Professor Levine (Engineering Science and Physics, College of Staten Island) – First of all, Russ, let me say how happy I and the rest of the faculty are with all your new positions, and in particular how grateful you are that you will be in charge of the Office of Academic Affairs in this interim period. We’re very glad. Now I’ll start by asking questions. In the document you handed out there is a category 40 positions for academic support services with a funding of $75,000 per head, which is higher than the funding for cluster hires. Is this a euphemism for…? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – No, the cluster faculty positions are funded at $70,000. / Professor Levine – The net funding for the cluster faculty is $58,200 per position. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – That’s net. There are other factors in there. There’s benefits. / Professor Levine – But $50,000 plus fringes still doesn’t get to $75,000 per position. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – These are ten-month salaries in terms of the actual allocations. / Professor Levine – But my question is I don’t know what academic support services is. Is this a euphemism for more deanlets? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Absolutely not. / Professor Levine – Well, what is it? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – They are essentially, and most of them are HEO positions as I indicated earlier, they primarily have been requested in the form of academic advisers; some people have requested positions to work with disabled students; in one or two cases they’ve asked for another CLT, but there are no administrative positions in here, unless you want to consider Director of Disabled Student Services a …/ Professor Levine – No.

     Professor McManus (Bronx Community College) – I wanted to tell you how much I respect the wisdom of the people who decided to invest in community colleges. I want to express appreciation on behalf of the faculty and staff for investing in the teaching and learning resources for us, and I guess I need to also express thanks on behalf of the senior colleges for the money that have been allocated to support their database participation. I think it’s a good thing that the libraries are getting the resources. I think that’s terrific. Just two questions. Will the money be coming soon, the additional money for the libraries, because I haven’t heard yet on my campus? And the other question, I was hoping that perhaps might be considered that the senior college tuition increases could be similarly per capita allocated to support libraries as well for additional databases and resources. Those are the two questions. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – First of all I think, again, the Chancellor is really to be commended in this regard because he did go way out on a limb here, and we’ve been down to the City Council, we were down there last Friday; they recognized this, they’ve been supportive and appreciative of it. One of the reasons we’re sort of looking at this closely is that we won’t get a second chance at this; if this doesn’t work out, as we all know it can, it would be hard pressed for us to go and ask someone to trust us in the future, so there is really a need for us to make this good. I think that unfortunately the tuition increase at the senior colleges was really an offset of a reduction in support from the State, so it didn’t leave us with anything additional to turn around and have an investment program. At some point I would hope the State would perhaps reverse course, which it’s been on for a while now, and bolster support to the University, senior college level, which will allow us to then invest in a much stronger way. / Professor McManus – And when will be additional money be coming that’s supposed to be spent by June 30? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – You’ve gotten most of it. There is spending, by the way, of the library money as we speak. The electronic resource purchase reps have been flying through and I believe by the end of this week, the beginning of next, any additional funds will be allocated to the campuses. Part of that is for library, part of it is additional OTPS, whatever’s left over. / Professor McManus – Will there be similarly public information provided about that additional money? /  Vice Chancellor Hotzler – I think when we’re finished at the end there will be a final document that will detail the distribution. / Professor McManus – Thank you very much. One last comment. When we’re going to the City Council - Chancellor Goldstein was talking about the capital problem with getting the City Council to fund so that the State fund can match it - they gave us all this money, we’ve got to put the resources somewhere, and we’ve got to put the faculty somewhere, so I don’t know if that is a leverage opportunity. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – We don’t want to bring those problems to that. If they’re willing to give us the money we’ll take the money and try to work it out.

    Professor Friedheim (History, Borough of Manhattan Community College) – Like the previous questioner I would like to congratulate and express my appreciation for those who invested in the community college investment program. Of course, the investors are our students. They’re investing an additional $300 a year. So there was a fund of a little over $25 million, which enabled us to hire 240 faculty, CLTs, librarians and people for student support services. Next year I assume there will be another $25 million. Will there be another infusion of new faculty and CLTs, and librarians and an increase in student support services, or are we going to reduce the tuition for our students by $300? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Essentially next year it’s anticipated that the bulk of the $25 million will be there to support the salaries of the 450 people that have been hired. We do feel there will be a little extra money, not as much as this year in terms of OTPS but there will be something in October. But essentially all the hiring we’re doing is going to subsume those funds, and one of the cases to the City Council has been to try and treat this as separate from the rest of the budget if they talk about other adjustments, because this is, as you said, student money, and they’ve been respectful of that and we want the students to accrue the benefit. / Professor Friedheim – But I assume the pot is going to increase from year to year as enrollment seems to increase from year to year. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – I don’t know how year to year that will continue but we will have more than the $25-26 million this year because the enrollment was a little higher, so some of the extra money that we’re able now to spend on library and other services is really generated from a higher enrollment at the community colleges, and if that continues into next year there will be some additional funds beyond what we anticipate in terms of OTPS. / Professor Friedheim – Use it wisely.

     Professor Pecorino (Queensborough Community College) – Congratulations, Russ! Almost every time we meet one another you’ve got another hat, a new position, a different office. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – My family is beginning to wonder whether I can hold a job. / Professor Pecorino – And I serve on more than one committee around this institution, so I stand here before you as the head of this UFS Committee that’s been charged with library matters and computer resources, so here’s my question. OK, you had twenty unfilled lines at $50,000, they gave you $1 million, you couldn’t give it back to the students so you did the best you could with it. It went to OTPS, you gave resources to the library, thank you very much; you gave some for the database access and you gave some for that new piece of software; all students will profit from gaining access to those services, thank you very much. Now come the questions: equity and proportionality. If all the units of CUNY are going to enjoy the benefits of that, the City Council wasn’t told that the money was being raised from the community colleges to benefit the entire University. One shot deal, you had the money, you had to do something with it. But you know database access is a yearly thing, and those twenty lines are going to get filled and then you’re not going to have that money. So where is the money going to come from to continue this wonderful project that we’ve been advocating that the central office will have a shared resource access to whatever electronic databases needed by any member of this community. That’s our goal? Where is the money going to come from once you take it off the backs of the community college students, because it’s going to be going into the salaries, or you’re just going to cut all the librarians off and say, “No longer you’re going to have access there.” And the senior colleges don’t ever have to pony-up for community college access. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Well, if you caught what I said before there will be beyond the coverage for salaries next year some additional OTPS. A piece of that is targeted to maintain the licenses for the various electronic databases. / Professor Pecorino – For the entire University? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – No, only for those new additions to the electronic database that have come out of this program. It’s anticipated somewhere between $5-600,000 will be continuation. / Professor Pecorino – That’s not what the Council of Chief Librarians was told. Mike Ribaudo appeared before them. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – And he said? / Professor Pecorino – That the databases were going to be given access to all the units of CUNY. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Right. If we purchase access to the database for the community colleges, as the way they’ve set it up, the senior colleges will be able to benefit and access them as well, the ones that we’re adding through this program. / Professor Pecorino – So why not equity and proportionality? Why not the senior colleges contributing as well on a yearly basis to keep it there, keep it increasing? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Surely there is a rather large amount of money spent every year on electronic databases and everybody has access to them, and some of that comes from the State, which, if you want to look at it that way, comes out of the senior college side. So I wouldn’t draw a line here but I think there is obviously an effort to share resources as best we can across the system. / Professor Pecorino – Can we talk about this becoming a secure revenue stream, as the Chancellor would say, for the database access? / Chair – On to the next question. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – We’ve both been around long enough to know what the word “sure” means. 

    Professor Philipp (Chemistry, Lehman College) – I’ve already congratulated you, so I’ll delve into that and I wish you well in your future positions. You mentioned the increasing number of transfers among the units of CUNY and I think everybody knows that we have a big problem in advising those students as they transfer between units of CUNY. One particular problem is that department Chairs and advisors on the departmental level cannot readily see the academic records of the students who transfer to the senior colleges from the community colleges. I’m a Chair and I get lots of transfers but I cannot advise them because I don’t know what they’ve taken and they don’t always remember. It’s not electronically there. Is there any solution that you can think of? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – I think first of all moving to the Degree Works program will solve the technical problem associated with that in that one could then access the programs and the program would do the equivalencies. The other issue that is a little different, and that’s a matter of privacy and security as to how we could regulate access, is who has access and under what conditions. So that piece would have to be dealt with. But from a technical perspective what you’re asking for will be feasible as the Degree Works comes online. / Professor Philipp – Technically I’ve been told - I’m a member of the IT steering  committee - that it’s already available. It is in fact a political question that once we have a student who is in front of our desks we cannot advise them. We have no mechanism for seeing their records except to go to a different building and find a piece of paper, something like that. So it is a political question. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – I think there are some technical elements here that have to be resolved. I’m not sure the current system can do exactly what you’re asking, maybe in an isolated case, but there is an issue as to how the student records are released and who can access them from what location, and that’s something that will have to be dealt with. I will discuss this further with our 57th Street crew. 

     Professor Singh (Hostos Community College) – My question is also about this record number of transfers. I can understand students transferring from community colleges to senior colleges in large numbers, and that of course is a matter for gratification, but I also noticed that there are large numbers of students transferring between community colleges. How would you explain that, Vice Chancellor? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – They actually transfer in ways that we can’t even imagine; they go in every possible direction back and forth, and some of it is driven by students moving, their jobs change, their locations, there are a hundred different reasons why they may transfer from one school to another. Sometimes students want to take classes closer to where they work or where they live. Also, obviously sometimes students change their majors as they go along and they want to go to another school where perhaps the program they want is located. It’s clear from the numbers that this flux is not random but it is certainly very intense and it spans the spectrum all over. Students from Hostos go into other community colleges, go into senior colleges, and vice versa. / Professor Singh – I understand many of these reasons but how do we explain the fact that there are more such transfers taking place now than perhaps ever before. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – We’ve seen a significant increase in the number of external transfers and I would have to believe that that is twofold. I think it’s partially due to the increased importance and standing of the University, as well as the fact that I think some of the tuition charges of the private schools are absolutely ridiculous. We see students, I know, transferring in who in a year or two build up $20, 30, 40,000 in student loans and that’s inappropriate, it’s unfortunate, so we think that the students are recognizing at this point good quality for their money and we’re going to try to help them. / Professor Singh – Are we planning any kind of a study of this phenomenon? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – We have been looking at it closely.

     Professor Jacobson (Brooklyn College) – Russ, having worked with you in so many different venues I want to say how pleased I am to be working with you again as the Interim Vice-Chancellor. My question concerns cluster hires. You have 60 lines here for the community colleges. Have they been allocated and what areas have been targeted for cluster hires at the community colleges? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Leslie, as we said, perhaps when this was originally formulated, the term cluster--perhaps another word should have been used. We refer to it now as the priority positions for the community colleges. We’ve expanded the definition and it basically, for the community colleges, refers to lines that they would need to fill at a higher salary. / Professor Jacobson – This is the kind of thing that we talked about at our meeting, yes? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Right. / Professor Jacobson – So we’re talking about where we need people in priority areas like nursing and education. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – In community colleges those are different areas than they are for a research agenda, if you will, at one of the senior colleges. / Professor Jacobson – OK, thank you. How many of the 60 have been allocated? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – At this point there are a few that have not been allocated but let me just say that the colleges have gotten every line they’ve asked for with the exception of one. / Professor Jacobson – Would you send the numbers and the areas to the University Faculty Senate? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – By the way, they haven’t been allocated simply because we gave them upfront the opportunity not to have to ask for all the lines immediately. They had just gotten 240 lines. Clearly they had a number of priority positions that they knew they needed but we wanted to provide them the opportunity to reflect on this and come back later and ask for some more lines. So that’s been happening and as people have asked for it we’ve been giving them out. Certainly within the next month or so all 60 of them will be…/ Professor Jacobson – To clarify I think maybe we should talk about priority areas so we don’t confuse the issue. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Right. That’s the way it’s being referred to in all of the correspondence right now. These are priority faculty positions. / Professor Jacobson – OK, thank you.

     Professor Crain (Psychology, City College) – Several people have said that extra revenues cannot be returned to students. Why not? Is that just a ridiculous idea? Is there any consideration of returning these extra collections in the form of lowering tuition? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – There’s obviously a larger debate, and the City Council itself has looked into even going back to no tuition. Certainly, as it refers to this project, the funds available will produce a significant resource in 450 lines, and I think that, given the needs of the community colleges right now, we have to put this money to the best use for the benefit of the students. If at some point in the future those dynamics change, anything might be possible.

     Professor Kaplowitz (English, The John Jay College of Criminal Justice) – My congratulations too, Vice Chancellor. Just a side comment. As a member of faculty at a college that has been historically under funded I envy my colleagues and the students at the community colleges because you already, without the investment, have a higher percentage of course sections taught by full-time faculty, and after these hires you will have far higher percentages than at John Jay and some of the other senior colleges, so I do hope we get an investment from the State so that the senior college students can also be treated as they deserve, as the community college students are. I have a question, and I was going to ask the Chancellor but he was clearly leaving, but the question is that at the last budget briefing of our Budget Committee of the UFS,  we were told that the Assembly and the Senate had agreed that the excess revenue above the Governor’s proposed budget is between $100 and $500 million. Now that’s a gap, but the problem is that $500 million is very little; $100 million is very, very little, but $500 million, which is the maximum they’re agreeing to, is very little. To restore TAP, as the Chancellor says, is $300 million. Is it really in the picture that TAP will be restored or should we be as worried as I am, because $300 million out of $500 million to do everything, health care, K through 12, everything else for the State, that’s more than half of the maximum amount that was agreed to a few weeks ago at least, unless the picture has changed tremendously. /  Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Let me just respond a little bit to that. I think those numbers keep changing because I think the Assembly and the Senate realized you can’t do much with $500 million, so they are kind of upping those numbers, a billion, two billion. / Professor Kaplowitz – Are they up to that? / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Well, it’s growing a bit, and I think they’re trying to find a larger home, but your concern is well founded because, as you all know, TAP has been under attack for many years from different directions, and they have come at it from different ways in an attempt to sort of lower that number. There is significant pressure, as the Chancellor said; we’re not the only ones that benefit; our students, all the students benefit from that. So we’re hopeful that they will end up restoring if not all of it almost all of it. But it is something that will continue to draw our attention and our energy to ensure that we keep pushing it. / Professor Kaplowitz – Hopefully none of us, including the faculty, assume that because in the past years we’ve been successful it’s something that will automatically be restored, because I don’t think it necessarily will be. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – Not necessarily a given. Maybe it’s an election year, there’s I think the desire on their part to restore this that’s in our favor, but eternal vigilance is required. / Professor Kaplowitz – Thank you.

     Chair – Thank you so much. / Vice Chancellor Hotzler – I’d just like to say that I thank all of you for your kind words and indicate that, regardless of what job I’ve had, I’ve always felt that essentially my job was to enable you to do yours.

      Chair – Thank you. Do I have a second? How did you know? Do we have a quorum?  No, but I can still make my report quickly. Katherine Richardson wanted me to announce that for the PSC-CUNY Research Award grants there are vacancies. They are looking for people in women’s studies, performing arts, library, mathematics, music, engineering, ethnic and area studies, history, earth and environmental science, communications, linguistics, speech and hearing.   

    Let me give my report very quickly, just a couple of things, and then I want to spend just two minutes on the Master Plan, and then you can go home.

    Faculty Experience Survey –I met with David Crook today. It looks as if the survey has been completed. It will now be piloted at Queens College because we have to make sure that all the questions make sense. It will then be sent out in the fall. There will be a booklet of data, similar to that for the Student Experience Survey, that you will receive, and performance measures will be developed that will be part of evaluating the Presidents. I’m really pleased this is going forth.

    April 23 the UFS will hold a conference: “The Politics of Tenure.” I hope you’ll come. Larry Hanley has agreed to speak; he is the editor of Academe; and Barbara Bowen, Chair of the PSC.  We’re looking for a President to speak. They’re proving scarce. Maybe we should ask Russ. We will also have a panel with two Chairs, two recently tenured faculty, and two new hires representing different positions. I hope you all attend the conference.

    Please read your Senate Digest! I found when I attended a meeting of the Status of Faculty and Academic Policy that everybody had not read their Senate Digest. It is out; it should be in your mailboxes. My column is about changing the tenure clock: the education law would have to be changed in order to change the time to tenure.

    We went lobbying last week in the snow. There were eight of us. I want to thank them so much. What fine lobbyists! Theresa McManus, I must say, if we don’t get the community college capital budget after she reported the state of the Bronx CC Library … Dina was extraordinary. Martha Bell is a superb lobbyist. Robert Kelly, Eckhard Kuhn-Osius from Hunter, Eda Hastick, Concetta Menella were also wonderful lobbyists. We saw eighteen legislators or aides and we’re evaluating how be more effective.

    The Academic Integrity Report will go through the Board in May or June. About the Master Plan, what makes sense is that you read it, distribute it to governance bodies, and then e-mail back comments. It’s a little bit like a quilt of ideas. In other words, you’ll see that Martha Bell wrote a little tiny bit of it and Phil Pecorino wrote a little bit of it; I’ve been getting paragraphs from people with expertise in different areas, but I need your help. Yes, Martha.

     Professor Bell (Educational Services, Brooklyn College) – Susan, I would ask that we not distribute this one widely, that we ask the people to wait till next week when we could do a better draft for distribution and then distribute it widely. I think there are some problems with this one that will not serve us well, as I read for details, which I didn’t have a chance to do this afternoon. / Chair – How could you, I just got it out! / Professor Bell – Yeah, but I could have stayed up all night, I guess. / Chair – No, I was rewriting it up to 2:30 today because people were feeding me information. / Professor Bell – I think before people distribute it widely on the campus they should wait till next Tuesday or Wednesday after the Executive Committee when we will send out a better draft. / Chair – Fine. We’ll send it out, and we’ll also have it on the website, the corrected one. That’s fine with me.

    Now, new business?  I think a motion of sentiment is in order. As you know, a CUNY faculty member, Ramona Hernandez of City College, was dismissed by the Mayor for her stand against holding students back in the third grade on the basis of a single test.  She said that she was a faculty member and she thought research was essential before she voted. / Unidentified – Was she dismissed from a tenured position? / Chair – No, she’s OK, but there was all kinds of pressure on her to vote with the Mayor. It’s quite a story. Anyway, Bill Crain would like to read a motion of sentiment.

      Professor Crain (Psychology, City College) – Let me just say that the Mayor dismissed three people in order to win the vote. She was one and she’s very upset. So the motion is that we wish to express special gratitude and appreciation to our colleague, Professor Ramona Hernandez of the City College, for thinking only of the best interests of children and maintaining the courage of her convictions in the recent New York City dispute over grade retention. / Chair - Do I have a second? Yes. (Voting) OK, we will relay that to Ramona. Do I have a motion to adjourn? OK, see you next month.